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GN[ING Redmond Cup Senior Division - Final Playoff Round 3 - 2008 US Go Congress - Will Zhou (7d) vs Cherry Shen (6d)]PW[Will Zhou]PB[Cherry Shen]WR[7d]BR[6d]DT[2008-08-06]EV[ING Redmond Cup]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Calvin Lee]RE[W+Resign]
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;W[ff]C[dddaaa: Hi, usgo14.
usgo14 [-\]: hello
usgo14 [-\]: welcome to the third round of the redmond cup sr division playoffs
dddaaa: The winner of this game is going to play Gan Sheng. Right?
usgo14 [-\]: yes
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usgo14 [-\]: just this one. and then the winner needs to beat gansheng twice
usgo14 [-\]: gansheng only needs to win once
dddaaa: Thanks
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;B[jp]C[usgo14 [-\]: In case you guys are wondering, Cherry is 16 and Will is 14
dddaaa: Should Will be 15?
Suicide [7k\]: Cherry is a fun name ^_^
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;W[ge]C[usgo14 [-\]: He's going to be a sophomore. But I'm thinking he's 14 about to turn 15. I don't really remember
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;B[gc]C[Suicide [7k\]: usgo14 only likes 14s...
dddaaa: so makes it 14 + 1.
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;W[ob]C[appleseeds [6k?\]: what are the age limits for the Redmond Cup?
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;B[hf]C[usgo14 [-\]: under 18 before congress
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;W[ne]C[xedover [7k?\]: go cherry !!!
xedover [7k?\]: ah, good luck to william too :)
usgo14 [-\]: games like these are inspiring :)
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;B[hh]C[xedover [7k?\]: Calvin, why aren't you playing?
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;W[ld]C[usgo14 [-\]: in what?
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;B[fh]C[xedover [7k?\]: Redmond, Ing, any of them :)
usgo14 [-\]: redmond, too old now. ing, i volunteered for my duty to the ejournal prior to the ing opening up
usgo14 [-\]: and i intend to keep it
usgo14 [-\]: seeing these two play makes me wish i had more time or had started earlier though :)
xedover [7k?\]: I know what you mean
usgo14 [-\]: in some ways. these two are my peers though, so i feel more directly competitive with them
xedover [7k?\]: what's your rating these days?
usgo14 [-\]: both players are concentrating very intently on the game
dddaaa: usgo14 is Calvin Lee?
usgo14 [-\]: gan sheng shi is sitting next to them observing the game
usgo14 [-\]: mhm
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;W[bd]C[usgo14 [-\]: both will and cherry are playing pretty fast. a change from the last two rounds
YangX [4d\]: time for both players?
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;B[bc]C[usgo14 [-\]: 71 minutes for will
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;W[eh]C[usgo14 [-\]: 73
YangX [4d\]: ic
YangX [4d\]: thx a lot
usgo14 [-\]: sorry, i cant get out of my seat so i have to fetch someone to read it to me and then msg me it
usgo14 [-\]: :)
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;W[fo]C[usgo14 [-\]: Cherry just yawned
usgo14 [-\]: anumber of the kids here are pretty tired from all the go and lack of sleep
usgo14 [-\]: tomorrow is a day off, so it'll provide some much needed rest
dddaaa: are they visiting some places?
usgo14 [-\]: there are tours to local attractions in oregon
usgo14 [-\]: but for the most part the youth are staying here and just hanging out
dddaaa: how is the weather in portland?
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;B[dn]C[usgo14 [-\]: it was moderate when we got in, but its heating up this week
usgo14 [-\]: luckily the facilities are well air-conditioned
EeqMCsq [3k\]: waht do u do in beetween matches?
usgo14 [-\]: are you asking me what the youth do, or people in general?
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;B[hm]C[usgo14 [-\]: well pros are usually on hand to review games
usgo14 [-\]: lectures are going on, so are pro simuls
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;W[en]C[usgo14 [-\]: some play games for fun or review each others games.
usgo14 [-\]: people also play soccer, basketball, or other sports
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;B[dm]C[EeqMCsq [3k\]:  hmmm sounds fun
EeqMCsq [3k\]: thx for answering calvin
usgo14 [-\]: no problem
EeqMCsq [3k\]: hope u have fun there
usgo14 [-\]: it's great :) im here more for fun than for competition. you should come one year if you get a chance to
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;W[ir]C[dddaaa: how to they count the final score?  it seems always a few points different from the SE.
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;W[kq]C[EeqMCsq [3k\]: well evyr living stone is a point
usgo14 [-\]: basically the ing containers have a set number of stones.. i think 180 per person?
EeqMCsq [3k\]:  and captures arent a point ? thats all i knwo form watching a nd reading kibitz
usgo14 [-\]: and at the very end of the game
usgo14 [-\]: both players fill all their territory with the stones they have left
usgo14 [-\]: whoever runs out of space in the territory loses
usgo14 [-\]: and the margin of victory depends on by how many spaces the opponent is short
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;W[lr]C[EeqMCsq [3k\]: ?
usgo14 [-\]: SE is not a good indicator for games where dame count for points. it's usually off by a little. it's accurate for japanese
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;B[qc]C[dddaaa: I got it. Thx.
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;W[pb]C[dddaaa: how much time do they have left now???
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;B[pe]C[usgo14 [-\]: 58 minutes for will, 55 for cherry
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usgo14 [-\]: touchpad clicks if i touch it twice
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;W[ln]C[usgo14 [-\]: cherry looks a bit flustered
been1year [1k?\]: :P
been1year [1k?\]: hope he gets out
usgo14 [-\]: cherry is a girl :)
been1year [1k?\]: hope she gets out :D
been1year [1k?\]: i should of went to this
usgo14 [-\]: do you know her?
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;W[rq]C[usgo14 [-\]: cherry looks furstrated
usgo14 [-\]: frustrated*
usgo14 [-\]: she visibly regrets playing that ko threat
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;W[nk]C[usgo14 [-\]: cherry resigned
usgo14 [-\]: W+R
dddaaa: Thx. Calvin.
EeqMCsq [3k\]: thx
usgo14 [-\]: thx
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